FYI it's not the recoil spring. Your link has been automatically embedded. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. Im a little ahead of you on this path. Advise requested, a question about requiring the FEDERAL 4473 form, SB 1 and SB 858 Committee vote Friday at 9 AM, Old Racist Gun Laws Enter Modern-Day Legal Battles, New Gun Giveaway! I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. can your extractor move freely? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. With Timney I can set off small rifle that I could not with my Glock trigger. Your link has been automatically embedded. Pasted as rich text. I will say that I just set up a new Zev Glock 17 with RMR, and my usual loads ran the gun just fine, but (without checking) the Zev slide seems lighter than the OEM Glock one it replaced. I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. JavaScript is disabled. You can post now and register later. I have 2 Timneys installed, one on a 34.4 & 34.3. This is only going to be used at the range. Or you can order them for like 2-3 bucks offline from Midway or Brownells. How are you sending the slide forward? I noticed while shooting that sometimes the slide will not return back to battery 100%. Its light but mushy. I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I sent 100 rds down range today and no problems. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin. Clear editor. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. What ammo? There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. Im planning on a press as my next significant purchase. that should fix it for sure, I assume you are using the "U" shaped washer as well ? All Rights Reserved. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. My friend is having an issue with his 80% glock 19. first 50 rounds about 20% had a bulge in the casing at the base of the bullet, causing the slide not to go into battery. This did the trick. Thank you for that great info! Im curious to see what the hype is about but getting rid of my Glocks isnt a consideration. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. Maybe he did something to the slide? Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. The slide hangs up on something about 1/2" back. I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. Im a little ahead of you on this path. are you certain that everything is installed properly? A couple weeks ago I installed a Timney Trigger with the red return spring. - Bren. Does the gun run OK or is it failing to go into battery during live fire? It is one of the dual captured springs, so there doesn't appear to be much that can be done to "fix" anything. Out of a 10 round mag, it averaged 2 or 3 times. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. My Glock trigger was/is the same as my Timney, 2.5#. You cannot paste images directly. Pasted as rich text. Got the second trigger for the 34.3, dropped in no problem. With the slide off, there was visible movement in the timney part when i manipulated the trigger. Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. try firing it. I'm not sure if you have the stock FPS spring or not. The gun has about 11,000 rounds through it. Others who know more might add some but I think it's not a problem and will wear in with use. Some of it might be the tolerance of your frame itself. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! is the cruciform on the trigger bar seated properly in the trigger mechanism housing? The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. Found the culprit. Did not have any problems before I had this milled. I am sure it has to do with some of the mods I've done. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. It definitely had the issue less today (not every mag) but its still doing it. SJ 40, thank you! All Rights Reserved. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Glock OEM triggers are generally crappy even after polishing, but they are reliable. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. You are using an out of date browser. Eject it. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. It sounds more like a recoil/mag spring issue to me. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. January 3, 2004 in Glock. This may sound crazy but if you or a buddy have a tac light slip it on the rail and try firing again. 2. the Trigger spring may not have been re-installed properly causing the sear to hang when the slide tries to return to battery I just noticed that in my previous post that the word 'Spring' sprung out of the post. Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. I dont get it, youve been shooting a G34 for quite some time, then you cant get a Timney trigger to work so youre ready to try a Sig? If the slide goes into battery with this test, you've got other issues. I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. Just a thought. If that doesn't work I would also suggest installing a heavier recoil spring and a heavier trigger spring. Your previous content has been restored. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. It won't load a round. I've been running Glock pistols since they came out with the G21 in .45acp over 30 years ago, that's when I sold my Colt 1911 and never looked back. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. You must log in or register to reply here. I would pull and hold the trigger, rack the slide and it wouldn't return completely to battery until I released some tension on the trigger. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. It's great. I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. buddy19 Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply Check for it. The slide goes forward just fine if he doesn't hold back the trigger but when he holds back the trigger, the slide won't go fully forward. Is this normal with these mods? What is the length of your round, bullet type, and powder/charge for the reload? One mag in particular was the worst. Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. None of my other Glocks do it. I have played with many Glock triggers and trigger parts since then, both Glock and aftermarket selections, looking for that secret sauce. Paste as plain text instead, Like polishing amounts? "If I could have banned them all - 'Mr. I bought a used (only shot one time) Gen 3 Glock 36. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Make sure your slide lock spring is all the way flush with the inside channel. It was a good deal, and now I know why. Pasted as rich text. Thoughts on city living: If I'm at the dump and worried about all the rats, I don't think about how much ammo it takes to shoot them all, I just leave the dump. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. what happens when you let it down slow is nothing like shooting it. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. No lube should be needed on RSA. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. It should close by itself. Pull the slide about 1/2" to the rear and let it go. This, in all cases with any new firearm, is a fundamental error. I'm sorry it took me so long to reply, but life got in the way. Have you tried it with the factory barrel? Do the RSA's need lube? Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. UPDATE! Is this how it supposed to function? I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Any . May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Glad you got it fixed. But after doing some research, I shouldn't be surprised that a guy who got arrested for ripping off his LEO department, and even got his wife arrested for it too, would hier less than professional crew. I'm guessing if the OP was shooting reloads this may have been the problem. It has failed to return fully to battery once but every other time, it's a brief hesitation then it snaps into battery. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. I could measure how it was off. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. I think the increased slide weight is preventing the rsa from becoming fully compressed during the recoil cycle using the handloads. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I haven't fired it yet, but all of the dry functions now work as well as the recoil spring test!!! No need to clean, just add lube. Does anyone have any suggestions? Paste as plain text instead, Powered by Invision Community. Nice pull and crisp break. No reason to leave the plantation because the Timney would not work out in your Glock. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. I plan on winning the lottery soon so I'll have much more free time in the future. I should have added this in the OP. it looks like the spring doesn't detend far enough , then doesn't pushes the slide into complete battery. How much did you need to take off? Slide not fully returning to battery while trigger hasn't been reset (G19) So I have a G19, cerakoted slide. Thanks for the suggestion. Or has it been an issue since purchase? BTW, it fired and function 100% last night for 250 rounds with the spring installed incorrectly. Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. The Barbie dolls are mine. I will give anything a try because I can't afford to just eat the cost of this slide and buy a new one. By What do your used primers look like? The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. 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